Why are podcasts useful? They’re a way of listening, learning and rehearsing a better version of the world we live, work and play in, a way of connecting the local with the regional, national and international.
Speak Up, Speak Out is a podcast now in Series 2 is evolving opportunities to change the way we work. live and think about change: ours and the society we live and work in.
Drafted, considered, researched and delivered by Charmaine Roche the podcast is a living thing: looking at the culture of organisations and work through experienced conversations that are growing practical resources.
You can register for the end of season panel (Thursday December 3rd between 7.00 and 8.30 pm) where members of the panel debate the future of the coach and coaching for better times:
Below is some info and resources related to the series so far:
Speak Up Speak Out asks questions about how we can all beat our way out of the undergrowth of unecessarily bureaucratic ways of seeing ourselves and others and how this impacts on the way we work, how we feel, think, behave and live.
How do issues of equalities impact on our understanding of climate change, for example? (Zoe Cohen has been developing resources), How Can Issues Identified Through Coaching Be Given Momentum and Capacity Locally? (Dion Johnson’s podcast episode started with her mulling over how coaching was often used as a form of crisis intervention but she wondered why when the crisis was over why people stopped dreaming and hoping for something much, much better?).
Hany Shoukry considers considers coaching for emancipation: where you begin to understand how people internalise notions of worth/lack of self worth based on their experiences and contexts and how understanding a broader social, cultural, personal and historical influences can create enormous insights, methods and tools. This work picks up on the collaborative and notion of group coaching of the first episode in the second series that the model of coaching we use often reinforces the constraints of the corporate environment. Hany uses a ‘statement of intent’ the values that the coach will use will be driven by the coachee, the coach is a tool in this process. Hany is clear that he can’t just assume neutrality he’d invest in critically reflecting on his own biases and how he thinks about sensitive topics: helping coachees to recognise the sensitivities they need to function more freely…….
Fascinating stuff!
How can we begin to see ourselves and others as partners and collaborators for shared values, how can we work so that we feel that https://www.linkedin.com/in/hshoukry/?originalSubdomain=ukwe are making a difference?
Charmaine’s an ex head teacher, now an executive coach who’s studying for a Phd at Leeds Trinity University. (You can be certain that this Phd will have practical use and application in every workplace in the UK and further afield).
Charmaine, just quite clearly, cares:
Show Up, Speak Up and Shake Things the Hell Up. Season Two Episode #5
A conversation with Dion Johnson, The Womanologist
Dion Johnson is a coach, speaker, facilitator and author of Influential Woman shortly available from all good independent book shops and Waterstones from 24th November 2020.
Dancing in the Dark. Season Two Episode #4
Are we forfeiting our right to be part of the eco-system we call earth? Join me for this conversation with Katherine Long and Max Girardeau to explore what Living Systems thinking has to offer us as we ‘dance in the dark’…
Max Girardeau
Through his work with The Visionaries, Max helps secondary schools grow healthy and cohesive communities that role model to the education sector and to wider society what it is to live harmoniously. In partnership with schools they work to co-create holistic developmental programmes for students, staff and adults in the wider school community. Max guides school communities on collective inquiry and participatory learning journeys that help them to bring about their vision for education.
Katherine Long
With over 25 years in people development, Katherine offers a range of 121, team and large group interventions to support growth, learning and sustainable change. Eco-systems thinking and stake-holder based design are key aspects of this work. Katherine actively engages in developing thought leadership practice to support leadership communities of practice across a range of sectors to fulfil evolutionary purpose: environmental and social outcomes across the world.
Speak Up Speak Out: Dancing in the Dark. Season Two Episode #4
Max Girardeau’s Visionaries also have a podcast: Crossing The Threshold
Diversity and Inclusion: A Living Systems Approach https://mail-63028.medium.com/diversity-and-inclusion-a-living-systems-approach-51554187bf87
Bayo Akomolafe, Nigerian Poet & Philosopher
The Bio-Leadership Project
Spiral Dynamicshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdGjKOnxLtE
Coaching for Emancipation. Season Two Episode #3
Coaching for emancipation is a direct challenge to the westernised paradigm that informs the majority of coaching and coaching research. It challenges the uncritical approach that regards coaching a self-evident good in and of itself without consideration for the contexts in which it is practiced or the contexts from which clients come. The key question is: Can we help clients affected by oppressive contexts to reach emancipation? If so, what are our ethical duties?
Guest Info – Hany Shoukry
Episode 3 Season 2 Born in Egypt, Hany started mentoring and coaching others as a teenager. Working within developmental initiatives creating programmes to support individuals and groups to grow and to live more fully.
Whilst starting to coach individuals from several countries, Hany realised that while everyone is unique, the social context has a deep impact on the individual’s development and choices. Hany then studied the phenomenon of oppression, how it becomes internalised, and how it denies a person or a group their humanity.
Show notes: Hany Shoukry Publications (3)
Coaching for emancipation A framework for coaching in oppressive environments by Shoukry 2016 (1)
Shoukry, Cox – 2018 – Coaching as a social process-annotated (2)
Coaching_for_Social_Change (3)
The future of Coaching – Disruption? Season Two Episode #2
Together Hetty Einzig, Naomi Ward and Charmaine Roche discuss both the creative and destructive power of disruption and the role it can play in coaching as it evolves to meet current and future challenges.
Hetty brings her training and practice in psychoanalytic and transpersonal psychology to her work. Combining embodiment and somatic intelligence with her coaching work, these diverse backgrounds enable her to contribute different perspectives, bringing together areas of thought, theory and practice often divided by tribal loyalties.
A Professional Coach and Facilitator with 14 years experience as a teacher and Leader in Secondary Schools. Naomi’s company ‘Education Connected’ supports Education Professionals as they connect back to purpose, values and self-leadershiin
Film: Hypernormalisation by Adam Curtis
Film: The century of the self by Adam Curtis
Dynamic Living Systems & Donella Meadows
Open Access to October July 2020 Edition of Coaching Perspective
Season Two Episode #1
A dynamic educational leader who is a passionate diversity, inclusion & equality advocate. She is Director of Diverse Educators Ltd and co-founder of #WomenEd, a grassroots organisation that connects, develops & empowers aspiring & existing female leaders. She often acts as a mentor to women seeking to break the glass ceiling into leadership positions in the education sector.
An experienced education leader with a background in primary, secondary and special education. She is skilled in Coaching, Executive Coaching, Inclusion leadership, CPD and training, Public Speaking, and Teacher Training.
Passionate about diversity in school leadership, developing leaders and creating schools that nourish.
A Coaching Psychologist who serves Leadership for Social Change
Experienced in psychodynamic Leadership Coaching & OD Consulting to executives & senior leadership teams in the non-profit, public & private sector.
Lives and works in the Johannesburg Area, South Africa
Episode Links:
Hannah Wilson
Hannah Wilson Leadership Development
Creating Effective Schools that Nourish- Revolutionising Education.
Achieving Transformative Feminist Leadership
George Floyd Special Edition
Season One Episode #6
This special edition has been commissioned to add our voices to the outrage, despair, pain and exhaustion being expressed in the global outcry against the brutal killing of George Floyd. Four black women, two of them my daughters, join me to process our reactions in the aftermath of the brutal and brutalising killing of George Floyd on May 25th, 2020. Listen into this intimate space of anger, grief, and commitment to work for change. A call of action, acknowledgement and healing.
This conversation is in 5 parts. Listen to segments or all in one go. It’s a heady ride.
Guest Info: Martha Da Costa Sherwood and a great podcast UnlockedUK
Transformational Coach and Director. Dr Ayesha Roche Clinical Psychologist, NHS and Lecturer in Psychology, Nottingham Trent University. Cara Thompson, Black Creative, Writer, Public Speaker, Diversity and Inclusion Champion. Nicole Roche, MEd Educational Leadership, English Teacher, Senior Leader.
Episode Links: Black Faces White Mask Franz Fanon
My Grandmother’s hands by Rasma Menakem
White Fragility: Dr Robin Di Angelo
Dr Joy Degruy: Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome
Speaking up: A fundamental expression of our humanity
Season One Episode #5
Charmaine Roche is an experienced consultant and executive coach building on an extensive career as a leader in the education sector. She is Director of LifeFlowBalance Coaching and Consulting Ltd, an organisation deeply committed to helping individuals and organisations flourish. She started her podcast in order to create a space to discuss the ethical dimensions of coaching and living in a complex world of churn and uncertainty. She believes that in ethics we can find an anchor.
Episode Links: Why I launched my podcast: Speak Up Speak Out: The Ethics Matter Podcast
The work of Hany Shoukry: https://oxfordbrookes.academia.edu/HanyShoukry
Michel Foucault on Power: Foucault: Power is Everywhere | Understanding power for social change | powercube.net | IDS at Sussex University
Carol Ryff Psychological Well Being Model Well Being & Human Flourishing
The Ethics Of A Climate Conscious Coach.
Season One Episode #4
Zoe Cohen talks about the formative impact of her parents on her formation as a climate conscious coach. This episode has it all. Opening with an ill chosen metaphor we sail on through laughter, tears, and honest reflections to a place of steadfast commitment.
Guest Info: As a highly experienced board-level director, and Master Coach, Zoe Cohen increasingly combines her two greatest passions: safeguarding the future of our one, shared planetary home; with enabling and encouraging people to shine and to take action.
Episode Links: Article – Being a Female Change-Leader
Book – Rethinking Coaching: Critical Theory and the Economic Crisis Angelique Du Toit and Professor Stuart Sim
Jane Fenton speaks up about ethical stress and social justice.
Season One Episode #3
Dr Jane Fenton speaks passionately about her journey from criminal justice social worker to university Dr of Philosophy working at Dundee university. Throughout her career she has been guided by a strong ethical framework forged in a politically conscious working class community. The cutting edge of her concern for the millennial generation of social workers who may have lost this link to the concept of social justice burns through our conversation.
Guest Bio: Dr Jane Fenton works at the University of Dundee. Latest work editing the Social Work Journal this year with Dr Richard Ingram and interestingly there’s a chapter on Podcasting For Social Justice; how in using the medium of podcasting students can evolve a professional identity.
A researcher, she has a background in Criminal Justice Social Work. Her work on ‘ethical stress’ has been an inspiration in my own research area and I look forward to digging deeper into her understanding of how the dominance of neo-liberal ideology and ‘managerialism’ affects professional conduct today.
Episode Links: Link to research papers
Viv Grant speak up about values dissonance and leadership.
Season One Episode #2
Viv Grant gets deep and emotional in this conversation. Her discourse reveals her to be in the tradition of the soul guide coach, feeling into the dissonance at the heart of headteacher’s struggles to align heart with role in a turbulent world.
Guest Bio: Viv Grant an Executive Coach and ex-headteacher works extensively with Heads and senior leaders in the education sector. She is passionate about supporting the emotional and psychological needs of school leaders whose sense of purpose, values and vocation is often at odds with the system they serve.
Episode Links: Viv’s latest Blog 28th October 2020:
What Does It Mean To Be An anti Racist Teacher?
Research Evaluation of Head Teacher Coaching Programme
Richard Rohr’s site as mentioned by Viv in the podcast: The Centre For Action
Coaching is apolitical.
Season One Episode #1 (updated @trustedcoachuk)
Martin Vogel’s article ‘Coaching Is Political’ published in Coaching Perspectives is a call to arms for the coaching profession.
We discuss his contention that coaching may be colluding with unethical practices in the workplace. Updated here 29/10/20 in his leadership coaching blog where he argues for access to coaching tools for everyone
Guest Bio : Martin Vogel, a Leadership Coach and Coach Supervisor, is also co-founder of VogelWakefield the Counter Consultancy. He helps senior executives and emerging leaders navigate complex challenges and he creates reflective space for coaches. Martin has a long interest in working with people leading creative teams and mostly works with leaders in the media, higher education and the cultural sector.
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